AinethachAtarBelchimacEnmonFjotraLash gra-DushnikhMenaRagnar Karthwasten is supposed to be a bustling mining town with two actively worked mines, yet only has a couple of buildings and too many NPCs to match. Jump to: navigation, search. Sanuarach MineThe Heart of Dibella Skyrim would lose its trading partners and would fall easily. This serves as the new source for trade between Skyrim and it's allies since the East Empire Company would be gone. Deutsche Übersetzung der Mod "Karthwasten" by Arthmoor. Sometime during the Skyrim Civil War, prior to 4E 201, the town of Karthwasten was the site of a massacre allegedly committed by the Stormcloaks, who disputed their responsibility for the bloodshed. Redoran may well be able to provide military support to Skyrim without needing to interact with the other great houses for approval but it wouldn't make political sense. Hammerfell naturally as the first. This has nothing to do with the ability for an independent Skyrim to defend or prevent an Aldmeri invasion but the point is moot regardless. There is a miscellaneous quest to determine who has control of the mine. For centuries, Karthwasten would prove itself time and again as an important fortified town against the original nedic tribes of Hammerfell, the Rourken dwemer, and eventually the warrior wave of the Yokudans. Diese … Let's say Skyrim defeats the empire. If this type of force were used against the Stormcloaks, there would be no contest. But the Empire has done nothing good for them since they abandoned Morrowind. The Empire has been able to run to the heir-apparent for mostly symbolic leadership. Would he have to compensate for Karthwasten? Remember Tullius only has a token force out of a weakened legion. What part of losIng resorces, men, allies, and land, makes all of you morons think that an independent skyrim would be better? When has House Telvanni ever been interested in the affairs or relations of other provinces? Both provinces are too weak to form a sustainable mutual defence after Hammerfell is left alone and still in a cold war recovering from the previous conflict and Skyrim is recovering from a civil war. Hammerfell naturally as the first. •There is no correct side in war, but the outcome for a hope of defeating the Aldmeri Dominion is that the Empire wins the civil war and keeps their access to borders and land within Skyrim Assuming this isn't the Bethesda Retcon Brigade at work, what could have happened to Karthwasten to reduce it to a settlement smaller than Shor's Stone? The Elder Scrolls IV: Knights of the Nine, Pocket Guide to the Empire, First Edition: Skyrim, https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/wiki/Karthwasten_(Skyrim)?oldid=3122644. •Neither side can defeat the Aldmeri Dominion without Unity, which the Stormcloak's cause will throw under the bus with their Independence •Cut content isn't lore, cut content didn't happen, cut content isn't a valid argument When the Dragonborn first arrives here, two groups are in a heated debate over the mine. Elder Scrolls is a FANDOM Games Community. Joined: Jan 21, 2013 Messages: 1,103 Likes Received: 504 … Town Phase 5: (optional) This phase will only appear if the 'balance' is uneven and one side is displeased. It is fair to assume Mede II had an heir and the Empire is therefore militaristically stable for having lost its leader and able to continue any military operations it was conducting or planning. Community content is available under. Of course, the Dragonborn would help significantly but its unrealistic to assert that the Dragonborn could almost single-handedly destroy a Dominion invasion against a weakened Skyrim. Loading... Unsubscribe from GamingSuperGuy? Reskin karthwasten using the custom vanilla meshes, and best of all its compatible with any reskin mod that changes village texture. Skyrim would be alone with a battered military and divided political environment. It is very possible, especially since OUR Dragonborn gains the ability to "control" Dragons. As I said previously, the Empire is not using the elite of it's forces in the Civil War. Even in the context of the game itself and not just lore, what is ridiculous is to assume that the Dragonborn would be powerful enough to completely nullify any handicap against Skyrim in the face of an all-out Dominion invasion. From a historical perspective, assassinations that have not ended the dynasty itself have never made a significant impact. The great houses would despise such a unilateral action on the part of House Redoran. Karthwasten's bulidings now do not longer look as the farmhouses as you find them at every edge in skyrim: Now they look like shabby miner hut's at the back of beyond like it should be, sordided by the terrories of the civil war and the attacks of the forsworns. Die original-Mod wird benötigt ! Register now to participate using the 'Sign Up' button on the right. Ulfric's already killed Nords who didn't side with him in Markarth, and his demands to Balgruuf are further proof of his extremism & hypocrisy, so there's no doubt the Stormcloaks were responsible for the Karthwasten massacre. In Skyrim, we see it as a mere pissant mining village, even compared to other settlements in Skyrim, meaning as of the 4th era Karthwasten isn't nearly as big as it was. Karthwasten is a small town in The Reach along the banks of the Karth River. Characters And that there are now many Dragons to "control" that can only be TRUELY killed by another Dragon/Dragonborn, that either reforming the Empire by siding with them might be well possible, under yet another Dragonborn. House Redoran is also badass. There's a Tanning Rack on the porch. Karthwasten Hall is a farmhouse in Karthwasten, next to Enmon's House. For other uses, see Karthwasten Hall. This just refers back to my previous point about the Dragonborn not being a significant enough asset to defeat an Aldmeri invasion. We want compensation for the people of Karthwasten, Tullius." Plus it's a known lore town that's been here for at least 200 years. Also if we want to start delving into the more creative strategies for Skyrim, During a second run through as a redguard I had reached the "Season Unending" quest when I noticed there was a demand by the imperials for the stormcloaks to make compensation for a massacre at Karthwasten. Ainethach lives here. Stormcloaks pay compensation for the massacre at Karthwasten +1 : Dawnstar and The Pale are given to the Imperials +1 : Winterhold and its hold are given to the Imperials +1 : Scoring System Details . Scorpio is a curious adventurer and prefers a bow or a dagger. 1) they could learn a great deal from enhanced studies in Blackreach. Just goes to show that the Stormcloak cause is hypocritical. If Redoran attacks the Dominion, the Dominion will likely interpret that as an attack from the rest of Morrowind. The Dragonborn can then kill him along with his entire crew then report back to Ainethach to get another reward. Elder Scrolls is a FANDOM Games Community. If the Dragonborn is harbinger of the Companions and wields Wuuthrad that will also put fire into the hearts of the Nords unifying them even more. Same could be said about Skyrim itself, if siding with the stormcloaks, the Dragonborn could very well unite skyrim under their banner, leading to potential new Empire based in skyrim. However, searching for love can be hard in a world. They are notoriously nationalistic and xenophobic and would never agree to commit forces to an offensive war even at the vote of the other great houses. That is a pretty strong group. The Aldmeri Dominion would in fact be foolish to invade. The Empire can decide to relocate one of these legions from Cyrodiil to retake Skyrim to prevent the Aldmeri from gaining a jumping-off point to the north and for all we know this may very well be their intention in any event of Stormcloak victory. Giving it to them pleases the Imperials, denying it pleases the Stormcloaks. The Dragonborn may potentially devastate an eastern foot-hold but a foot-hold on the other side of the province would have no trouble pushing towards Skyrim's assets in the Dragonborn's absence. So Skyrim would need to form alliance with the nations who oppose the Empire as well. Additionally, the houses are desperately building a defence against the constant threat of a second Accession War. At some point Ulfric gives Cruel-Sea permission to form up a navy for Skyrim since the man has been begging him for this for some time. The Dragonborn visits here in order to start the quest "The Heart of Dibella." It's not realistic. But the Empire has done nothing good for them since they abandoned Morrowind. Location ID 5) If the Dark Brotherhood was successful regardless of who assassinated the Emperor himself then the Empire would be even more weakened and unlikely to sustain a war with Skyrim. High Rock and Cyrodiil would be the only remnants of the Empire, but at this point they serve as no threat to Skyrim and it's allies. You are not allowed to use any files from this translation for other projects! Phase 4: Imperials want compensation for a battle at Karthwasten. Remember Tullius only has a token force out of a weakened legion. Take your favorite fandoms with you and never miss a beat. YOUR men killed people that YOU were supposed to be protecting! For centuries, Karthwasten would prove itself time and again as an important fortified town against the original Nedic tribes of Hammerfell, the Rourken Dwemer, and eventually the warrior wave of the Yokudans. 1. If the Dragonborn has defeated Alduin and Miraak then he could in some way command some of the dragons if not many dragons. ". If both members of a defence agreement are weak, then an opposing force has a better opportunity to attack whatever front is left weakest from the redistribution of military assets. 6) Tullius does not have the entire Imperial legion at his back, so with the Dragonborn in addition to a strong Skyrim the war for Skyrims independence could be over quickly. Plus any Telvanni left are no joke and would prove a very real threat to Thalmor mages. The Dragonborn is ridiculously OP and that gives Skyrim a great deal more power. (edited by administrators) Skyrim Civil War Imperial Legion (Skyrim) Aldmeri Dominion (Skyrim) Karthwasten (Skyrim) 3. If Erandur is your follower he will also mention the forsworn attacks on Karthwasten. Somehow utilizing dwarves machinery would give them another distinct advantage. On the quest Season Unending, the Imperials mention they want compensation from the Stormcloaks for the massacre in Karthwasten. While it may not be a garaunted checkmate, a Dragonborn certainly is more than the Aldmeri Dominion have. The Dragonborn is ridiculously OP and that gives Skyrim a great deal more power. Skyrim | The Slaugther of.. Karthwasten GamingSuperGuy. However, the best argument is indeed how strong the Dragonborn is. Plus any Telvanni left are no joke and would prove a very real threat to Thalmor mages. Northeast of MarkarthWest of Rebel's Cairn Maybe you could add a few ruins, graves and/or a monument because Karthwasten was once probably a larger trading town, before the Stormclock Karthwasten Massacre (On the quest Season Unending, the Imperials mention they want compensation from the Stormcloaks for the massacre in Karthwasten. Hold Over 7,000 hours playtime in Skyrim alone and has read every piece of lore since The Arena here, 4) If the Dragonborn is harbinger of the Companions and wields Wuuthrad that will also put fire into the hearts of the Nords unifying them even more. Dragons are an uncounterable threat to even the Summerset Isles. Karthwasten has several houses that contain silver ingots and ore and two silver mines. Dismiss Notice; Spoiler Your decisions during "Season Unending" Discussion in 'General Skyrim Discussion' started by Chadonraz, Sep 28, 2013. If the Dark Brotherhood was successful regardless of who assassinated the Emperor himself then the Empire would be even more weakened and unlikely to sustain a war with Skyrim. Cut content may not be "canon", but thats on bethesda, it still has HEAVY implication for lore as it was what was intended, just not delivered. So this place needed a bit of an expansion to flesh it out and make it seem more like the "Karthwasten Hall" of old, in as much as Skyrim will allow for that. So if you left with Ralof, that would have been a +1 to the Stormcloaks to begin with and would explain why the extra at the end to ask for compensation at Karthwasten which would have ended with a 0 score. Only thing is the only "massacre" I can recall is when I killed everyone who was occupying the mine there. Skyrim:Karthwasten - The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages (UESP . 2. The Reach If all of the Silver-Blood mercenariesare killed or persuaded to leave, the reward is a leveled amount of gold. High Rock and Cyrodiil would be the only remnants of the Empire, but at this point they serve as no threat to Skyrim and it's allies. Celtic Music in Skyrim by SilentRider ... Karthwasten adds these buildings to vanilla Karthwasten:-Karthworthsee Home Player's home (Kitchen, dining room, children's and master bedroom, exterior forge, enchanting and alchemy room, exterior planters and woodchopping block) Hearthfire's multi adoption mod compatible -Karthwasten's Services General store and Inn The town now has: … We know for sure that it was attacked by the Forsworn and if you favor the imperials in the negotiations the Stormcloaks will demand tribute from the imperials. This is why the war is not asymmetrical and the Stormcloaks can win. For every race except orc, you must first gain the trust of Orcs in order to enter any of the Orc Strongholds in Skyrim. For The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim on the PlayStation 3, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "about Season Unending: does it SHOW that Ulfric has compensated for Karthwasten? The UESPWiki – Your source for The Elder Scrolls since 1995 < Skyrim: Places: Towns. But anyway, with just what you said, you did favor the Stormcloaks at the end. It had come to my attention that in my absence, there was a massacre at Karthwasten. It is then a distinct possibility that even if the Stormcloaks had won the Civil War, the Empire would launch a dedicated counter-offensive in Skyrim with a dedicated and veteran legion - rather than what Tullius had which was essentially conscripts and sign-ups with an officer backbone - to prevent the Dominion from gaining a significant advantage over the Empire in a possible future second conflict. The Thalmor themselves, and the Aldmeri Dominion do not have the benefit of a Dragonborn, let alone anyone who could TRUELY kill a dragon. They say they "spilled Nord blood", the very people they swear to protect. They are not used because it is essential for them to fortify the southern border of Cyrodiil and, to a lesser extent, the Hammerfell border. Dragons. Ainethach Enmon, miner Mena, his wife Belchimac, miner Lash gra … Anyone have any idea? It is, therefore, an unsafe assumption to say that an independent Skyrim would make any attempt to weaponize Dwemer technology, especially given the plethora of problems they would have to dedicate resources to and the cultural distain for magic present in Skyrim. They say they spilled Nord blood). Continued How so? Sanuarach MineFenn's Gulch MineKarthwasten Miner's Barracks /thread. There is a miscellaneous quest to determine who has control of the mine. I… Skyrim:Karthwasten. Town: Karthwasten (view on map) Respawn Time: 10 days: Console Location Code(s) KarthwastenExterior01, KarthwastenExterior02, KarthwastenExterior03, KarthwastenExterior04, KarthwastenExteriorEdge : Region; The Reach: Location; East of Shrine to … He sets out on a adventure to Karthwasten, facing dangers on the road. The fact that an Army that lost to the Dominion is at a stalemate with the Stormcloaks should be enough evidence that the Storncloaks could not win alone. Like you said, Morrowind is too militarily weak and to become involved in the war climate at the moment would be a detrimental interposition since the Dominion has made no direct acts of aggression against Morrowind. Assuming I was a Legionnaire and took over all Stormcloak territories EXCEPT Windhelm, what would Ulfric/Tullius demand then? They also defeated the Thalmor after the empire cut ties with them and Hammerfell beat them out of their lands. Keep in mind, the empire was founded, by a dragon born. They also defeated the Thalmor after the empire cut ties with them and Hammerfell beat them out of their lands. Dubbed Karthwasten, after the river Karth that it lays abreast to, the settlement grew as a flood of nordic colonists intermingled with the original proto-Breton farmers. Then you add that clearly if Ulfric did win he did so with the Dragonborn as well. Next is Morrowind though they are weakened from the eruption and Argonian invasion substantially. At -1, refusing compensation yet accepting Winterhold will still result in a -1 offset in favor of the Stormcloaks, while an even score refusal of Karthwasten will result in Winterhold being demanded (in addition, Tullius switches to the -1 dialogue where he distrusts the Dragonborn's neutrality). The Dragonborn visits here in order to start the quest "The Heart of Dibella." Suffice to say, if both sides have allegedly committed these crimes, no compensation should be made. The town is run by Ainethach and is home to miners who work the two adjacent mines: Fenn's Gulch Mine and Sanuarach Mine. Before adding a bug to this list, consider the following: *Disclosure: Some of the links above are affiliate links, meaning, at no additional cost to you, Fandom will earn a commission if you click through and make a purchase. Take your favorite fandoms with you and never miss a beat. Would either of them have to pay compensation for a massacre? Requirements Nexus requirements. That's Skyrim, Morrowind, and Hammerfell. I don't argue that the Dragonborn would serve as an important military asset but I find it fundamentally unlikely that the Dragonborn's limited control over some Dragons would be enough to compensate for the severe lack of military power from an independent Skyrim. Es ist nicht erlaubt irgendwelche Dateien dieser Übersetzung für andere Projekte zu verwenden! Karthwasten has several houses that contain silver ingots and ore and two silver mines. Sublocations Neither province would have any interest in a defence agreement with the other since both provinces are severely weak. Seal the deal. When the Dragonborn first arrives here, two groups are in a heated debate over the mine. Continued They say they "spilled Nord blood", the very people they swear to protect. Everyone hates the Aldmeri Dominion that is not a part of them. This section explains the source of the numbers and options listed in the tables in the previous two sections. Earlier when Elenwen mocked Ulfric, she insinuated that the Imperials were the ones burning Stormcloak farms and killing Stormcloak sons. Karthwasten For the thousands of years the Dwemer have been missing, military forces have completely failed or neglected to implement Dwemer technology into their arsenals despite having access to extensive Dwemer ruins. Karthwasten Karthwasten is a town in western Skyrim, near the borders of High Rock and Hammerfell. What this mod offers is a general store trader, an inn, and a couple new buildings and models that might make the town of Karthwasten a more noticeable miner's town, with a burned-down house to note that a massacre had taken place in the village, as evident in Seasons Unending dialogue. KarthwastenExterior01KarthwastenExterior02KarthwastenExterior03KarthwastenExterior04KarthwastenExteriorEdge. Any commitment of forces to another province would weaken their defence. If military forces from Hammerfell move to reinforce Skyrim, southern and eastern coastal Hammerfell becomes more viable for Aldmeri footholds. Oh, the possibilities! Directly southeast of Karthwasten near where a. Alone and weakened either procince would still be a tough victory for the Thalmor, but United the three provinces could not only defeat the Thalmor but drive them back to the Summerset Isles. On the quest Season Unending, the Imperials mention they want compensation from the Stormcloaks for the massacre in Karthwasten. Skyrim Codes for Items in Skyrim, Dawnguard, Hearthfire and Dragonbor ; In Skyrim, you can marry anyone of any gender or race.If you're a male Nord, you could marry a male Orc if you wish! Welcome to Skyrim Forums! The Imperial Legion would later demand compensation for the massacre from the Stormcloaks as a condition for a temporary truce during negotiations at High Hrothgar . If the Dragonborn has aided Solstheim and House Redoran to a high extent then they would be more than likely to ally themselves with Skyrim. Karthwasten was the capital of The Reach, before it was replaced by Markarth. Especially after foiling the Hlaalu assassination plot and re-opening the Ebony mine. Chadonraz Well-Known Member. •The Imperial's cause is just And you were accusing the Stormcloaks of doing such a thing as well, when there's solid proof that your army was the one that killed many, many people there! You may now register with your Facebook or Steam account! Location Mod name Notes; Karthwasten: Permissions and credits Author's instructions. •The Stormcloak's cause is just Type Map 86. Again, no defence partners. 2) Dragons. Would Ulfric demand anything? Anyone have any idea? This section contains bugs related to Karthwasten (Skyrim). Tullius does not have the entire Imperial legion at his back, so with the Dragonborn in addition to a strong Skyrim the war for Skyrims[sic] independence could be over quickly. Next is Morrowind though they are weakened from the eruption and Argonian invasion substantially. First part of a lets play series with my khajiit Scorpio. There are three buildings in the town: Karthwasten Hall, Enmon's House and the Miner's barracks. Vice versa if Skyrim reinforces Hammerfell. He does so by demanding compensation for the Karthwasten Massacre. 3) If the Dragonborn has aided Solstheim and House Redoran to a high extent then they would be more than likely to ally themselves with Skyrim. If the Dragonborn has defeated Alduin and Miraak then he could in some way command some of the dragons if not many dragons. Or would Tullius demand a hold, and would he have to compensate for anything? The Elder Scrolls IV: Knights of the Nine. (An independent Skyrim) could learn a great deal from enhanced studies in Blackreach. I also made the point previously that the Empire can decide to dedicate a strong military offensive against Skyrim to secure it against Aldmeri invasion using it's dedicated legions - those seen during the Great War that used better armour, weapons, were mostly mounted, and led by an extensive backbone of skilled officers. 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